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Posts tonen met het label sex priests and secret codes. Alle posts tonen
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zondag, februari 28, 2016
vrijdag, mei 29, 2015
woensdag, juli 02, 2014
woensdag, augustus 14, 2013
Church adviser says insurance company dictated protocol on how to treat victims of clerical abuse; Church's insurance company 'dictated policy' on sex abuse
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8-8-2013
The Catholic Church's insurance company destroyed records relating to sexual abuse and drove the church's handling of victims of abuse, according to a former adviser to the church.
Psychologist Dr Robert Grant, who advised the Catholic Church committee dealing with sexual abuse, told ABC's Lateline on Thursday that Catholic Church Insurance dictated how victims should be treated under the Towards Healing protocol, a claim CCI denies.
US-based Dr Grant said meetings he attended in the late 1990s with the National Committee for Professional Standards, which was drafting the Towards Healing document, were attended by senior representatives of church-owned CCI or their lawyers.
Dr Grant, who has worked with the Catholic Church on sexual abuse in seven countries, said discussions devising the Towards Healing protocols centred on church liability and priests “being unjustly accused” rather than the wellbeing of victims.
woensdag, juni 12, 2013
DECLARACIÓN DE LA PRESIDENCIA DE LA CLAR - Junio 11 de 2013
“Perhaps even a letter of the Congregation for the Doctrine (of the
Faith) will arrive for you, telling you that you said such or such
thing... But do not worry. Explain whatever you have to explain, but
move forward... Open the doors, do something there where life calls for
it. I would rather have a Church that makes mistakes for doing something
than one that gets sick for being closed up...,”
the Pope was quoted saying.
the Pope was quoted saying.
Clar 11-6-2013
Bogotá, Colombia, 11 de junio de 2013
DECLARACIÓN DE LA PRESIDENCIA DE LA CLAR
La Presidencia de la CLAR lamenta profundamente la publicación de un texto que se refiere a la conversación tenida con el Santo Padre Francisco durante el encuentro del pasado 6 de junio. Conversación que se desarrolló a partir de las preguntas hechas al Papa por los presentes.
En tal ocasión no se hizo grabación alguna de la conversación pero poco después se elaboró una síntesis de la misma con base en los recuerdos de los participantes. Esta síntesis, que no contiene las preguntas hechas al Santo Padre, estaba destinada a la memoria personal de los mismos participantes y de ninguna manera a la publicación para la cual, de hecho, no se había pedido autorización alguna.
Es claro que sobre esta base no se pueden atribuir al Santo Padre, con seguridad, las expresiones singulares contenidas en el texto, sino solo su sentido general.
La presidencia de la CLAR lamenta profundamente lo que ha sucedido y la confusión que esto ha podido crear.
Hna. Mercedes Leticia Casas Sánchez, FSpS P.
Presidenta
Gabriel Naranjo Salazar, CM
Secretario General
PROT: 3.1.1-09
woensdag, maart 20, 2013
Jezuit blijft een jezuit Indiase nonnen tevreden, Fernandez de Kirchner overweegt suggestie paus: zet je sterkste wapen in
Smulpaap: " Buon pranzo",
Anglikanen not amused.
Unilever ook niet
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zaterdag, februari 16, 2013
Cardinal Roger Mahony will be deposed this month as part of a clergy abuse lawsuit set for trial in April.
"I would like to tell you that I have not received any letter from you dated March 23, 1987, nor any other information concerning "the homosexual problems of the priest." ... We have here in the Archdiocese of Los Angeles a clear plan of action: We do not admit priests with any homosexual problems."
Mahony, 2004
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maandag, februari 04, 2013
As church files revealed this week, Bishop Thomas J. Curry chose again and again to conceal clerics' crimes and put priests' welfare ahead of helping victims.
Jan 26, 2013
"I wish to apologize for those instances when I made decisions regarding the treatment and disposition of clergy accused of sexual abuse that in retrospect appear inadequate or mistaken."
A mistake the Santa Barbara District Attorney's Office is now investigating.
"We have some very serious allegations of obstruction of justice at the very least by individuals, I think the community has trusted throughout for a number of decades," says Santa Barbara City Chief Deputy District Attorney Hilary Dozer. "And that's a disturbing fact."
And prosecutors face another challenge. Most of the files happened in the 1980's far beyond the statute of limitations.
"If an individual has actively hidden information from law enforcement, there are some ways and situations where that statute of limitations is tolled," says Dozer. "Meaning it does not preclude us from going forward."
Senior Deputy District Attorney Ron Zonnen to lead the investigation against the church.
SANTA BARBARA — When he took office in 1985, Roger M. Mahony set about modernizing the operations of the Los Angeles Archdiocese. He brought in computers and put women in top jobs.
He then appointed an Irish-born academic to a brand-new cabinet position: Vicar for Clergy, a human resources director of sorts for priests, brothers and nuns. Msgr. Thomas J. Curry would shape the way the nation's largest archdiocese responded to claims that its priests had molested and raped children.
In his five years in the role, Curry was a staunch defender of the church and its clergymen. And as revealed in secret church records made public this week, he chose again and again to conceal clerics' crimes from police and put priests' welfare ahead of helping victims.
On Thursday, as his former boss was publicly rebuked, the 70-year-old regional bishop in Santa Barbara stepped down, part of an unprecedented reaction by the Catholic Church to the clergy child abuse scandal. It was a stunning fall for a man who had acted as a right hand for one of the most powerful U.S. Catholic prelates.
Over the years, Curry has issued numerous public apologies in response to the sex abuse scandal. At the same time, he has been outspoken in his criticism of government authorities who, he says, were overzealous in their investigations.
"The targeting of the Church (particularly in California), the overreaching of district attorneys and prosecutors, and the lack of due process and fairness for the Church has been tyrannical," he once wrote on a personal blog.
In another online missive, he criticized a San Diego federal judge who had upheld a California law allowing victims to sue for decades-old abuse: "Americans assume that the days of Henry VIII, when rulers declared themselves authorities in religious matters, are long gone in America. For Catholics, unfortunately, that is far from the reality."
In an email to The Times on Saturday, Curry said he wrote the blog posts to make the point that the Catholic Church was being unfairly blamed for a "society-wide issue."
"I do believe that it is a mistake for society to treat this as a 'Catholic Church' problem," he said.
Memos and letters
Not long after his appointment as vicar in 1985, Curry was discussing ways to keep the misdeeds of priests out of the court system, the newly released records show. Curry wrote memos and letters stating that he believed the church was not legally responsible for the harm its priests caused.
In November 1989, Curry wrote to Mahony about where to assign Father Kevin Barmasse, who had been sent to Tucson years earlier after molesting a Lakewood boy. The priest wanted to return to Los Angeles. Curry wrote: "The young boy involved is now about eighteen, so Kevin should certainly not return for another two years by which time the period for filing law suits will have passed."
In a letter that same month, he told Barmasse to stay in Arizona.
"While such suits are not effective against the Archdiocese, in that the Archdiocese was not aware of your behavior and did take action as soon as it became aware of it, they are extremely painful for all parties involved," Curry wrote. "Our experience tells us that your presence in the area ... would greatly increase the possibility of a suit against you."
He also dismissed the notion that the church bore responsibility for the acts of Msgr. Peter Garcia, a priest who targeted the children of undocumented immigrants.
In a 1990 letter, Curry wrote that he viewed a boy molested by Garcia as "the victim of a person who, as a result of his own illness, committed grave wrongs."
"Although the person was a priest, he did not perform these wrongs as a representative of the Church or even with its knowledge," he wrote.
Curry, as Mahony's delegate in handling abuse claims, dealt directly with the problem priests. After he met and corresponded with them, his sympathies often appeared to lie with the clerics.
Of one priest, George Neville Rucker, accused in 1989 by a 31-year-old woman of decades-old abuse, he wrote: "It was of great concern to him that for something that was so casual to him at the time could be so devastating to her … he stays awake at night because of this."
"The trouble it caused him and his transfer was such a trauma for him that he has never been involved in anything since that time," Curry recounted.
Curry also proposed to Mahony that another priest stay away from a therapist who "should have" contacted police but did not. And, he raised the possibility of sending an abusive cleric to a psychiatrist who was also an attorney so their conversations would remain legally confidential.
Curry declined to respond to questions on the files, saying he has "not had the time or opportunity" to review them. He said he felt "profound regret, disappointment, sorrow and sympathy" for parishioners who may have felt betrayed by the revelations.
Curry stressed that his actions related to priest abuse were at the behest of Mahony.
"I acted after consultation and consent of the Archbishop," he wrote in the email sent by his attorney. Curry said if such allegations were to come to his attention today, he would "be sure to ascertain that the matter had been reported to the secular authorities."
Church and state
Curry was ordained as a priest in Ireland in 1967. He earned a degree at University College Dublin in history and political science and soon moved to Southern California, where he worked as a parish priest in Woodland Hills and then as a high school teacher in Downey and Santa Fe Springs. He received his doctorate in American history at Claremont Graduate University.
Curry is a 1st Amendment scholar who has written and lectured extensively about the separation of church and state. He argues that since the 1940s, the government has meddled too much in church affairs.
When the church abuse scandal broke in 2002, more than a decade after his tenure as vicar ended, Curry was the Santa Barbara regional bishop. He repeatedly apologized in local newspapers, saying the church had not been equipped to deal with the problem.
That year, a group of Catholics started a chapter of the national church reform group Voice of the Faithful. Curry met with them. Marie Foley, 74, a former professor at Santa Barbara City College, said that Curry came across as a gentle scholar, an introverted intellectual who charmed people with his Irish brogue. He was far from imperious, she said.
"He expressed remorse at those meetings," Foley said. "I thought it was heartfelt. I got a sense that they were very slow in understanding sexual abuse and understanding pedophilia."
Behind closed doors, however, Curry struck a different tone.
In a 2009 civil deposition about his handling of Michael Baker, one of the archdiocese's most notorious pedophile priests, Curry said that in the 1980s neither he nor Mahony notified parishes where Baker had previously served, nor did they try to locate victims. "I wasn't trained in finding people," he said.
The bishop said he understood child molestation was a crime in 1986, when Baker first told church officials he'd abused boys, but didn't call the police because there was an understanding that Baker's admission — though not a sacramental confession — was a "confidential matter."
"If he had come in and told you he had murdered children, would you have called police?" an attorney asked.
"I don't know what I would have done in that I never dealt with such a thing," Curry replied.
Authorities believe that Baker molested as many as 23 children. He pleaded guilty in 2007 to sexually abusing two boys. Curry said that he was "disappointed" and "grieved" over the priest's transgressions, but he added: "I did not think I made a mistake at the time."
"Do you feel you bear partial responsibility for that by putting him back in ministry?" the attorney asked.
"No," Curry said.
"So your conscience is clear on that?" the attorney asked.
The bishop replied: "Yes."
'Very cordial'
In recent years, Curry had gained the respect of some Santa Barbara parishioners critical of the church's handling of the priest scandal.
Kathleen Strittmatter, 70, and her husband were so taken by the affable bishop that every Christmas they sent him a few bottles of good red wine. He didn't like Merlot, and shied away from Scotch, which gave him headaches, she said. The couple also gave Curry a series of jazz albums.
Strittmatter, who would sometimes run into Curry at the local Trader Joe's, said he often spoke nostalgically of his native Ireland.
"I felt a real connection to the man," she said. "He was very kind and very cordial."
When an elderly friend of hers who volunteered at Curry's residence started suffering from dementia, the bishop and Strittmatter worked together to help her.
This week, she and others were dumbfounded by what the reams of church records and correspondences revealed about the bishop's reaction to allegations of child abuse. They said they couldn't help but think about the public apologies he made a decade ago.
The local chapter of Voice of the Faithful called for Curry's resignation. But Strittmatter said she felt she owed Curry her own personal email. After a lot of prayer, Strittmatter told the bishop she hoped he would resign, adding pessimistically: "This will never happen I know."
She concluded the email: "I have spent the last week in devastation and sorrow, as I am sure have you. May God have mercy on us all."
Becerra reported from Santa Barbara, and Powers and Kim from Los Angeles. Times staff writers Harriet Ryan, Jack Leonard and Alan Zarembo contributed to this report.
dinsdag, januari 08, 2013
woensdag, december 19, 2012
maandag, juli 16, 2012
De "nazorg" van 1985 Wat kost zo'n kan petroleum nou?
't Is maar waar je nazorgen over hebt.... klik
vraag maar aan Danneels
Court rules that Diocese of Portsmouth is liable for clerical abuse
Catholic Herald
The Diocese of Portsmouth is liable to pay compensation for alleged sexual abuse by a priest, the Court of Appeal has ruled.
The decision, by a majority of two judges to one, makes dioceses liable for the wrongdoings of its clergy and clears the way for similar compensation claims. A 48-year-old woman known as JGE says as a child she was beaten by a nun at a care home and later raped and sexually assaulted by a priest, Fr Wilfred Baldwin, who has since died. The diocese disputes her claim. Lord Justice Ward said the relationship of priest and bishop was “close enough” to employer/employee “to make it just and fair to impose liability”. One judge, Lord Justice Tomlinson, dissented, saying: “If Fr Baldwin can be properly regarded as undertaking his ministry for the benefit of anyone, I should have thought it was for the benefit of the souls of his parish.” In a statement the trustees of Portsmouth diocese said they would be “seeking advice” about a potential appeal to the Supreme Court. They said their appeal was not about delaying compensation but was intended to “achieve clarity as to the nature and extent of the bishop’s liability for the actions of diocesan priests”. They said the verdict had “wide-reaching ramifications… not just for the Church but for other organisations, both charitable and commercial”. STATEMENT BY THE TRUSTEES OF PORTSMOUTH DIOCESE FOLLOWING TODAY’S APPEAL COURT JUDGMENT The following statement is issued on behalf of the Trustees of the Roman Catholic Diocese of Portsmouth in response to the judgment by the Court of Appeal in respect of vicarious liability in the case of JGE v The Trustees of the Portsmouth Roman Catholic Diocesan Trust. We brought this appeal in order to achieve clarity as to the nature and extent of the bishop’s liability for the actions of diocesan priests. A number of judgments in recent years have sought to extend the scope of vicarious liability, which is designed for relationships of employment, to very different relationships, including that between a bishop and his priest, who is an office holder and not an employee. We had not just the right but the duty to ask the Court of Appeal to hear the different arguments in this case, not least because of the far-reaching implications to faith and other voluntary organisations of extending vicarious liability in this way. The decision, although disappointing, was not unanimous, which emphasizes the complexity of this area of the law. The two judges who found against us acknowledged the force of our arguments and all three appeal judges commented on the difficulty of reaching a decision. The judges also referred to the wide-reaching ramifications of the decision, not just for the Church but for other organisations, both charitable and commercial. Because this case raises complex questions of law of real public importance, the Trustees will now be seeking advice from leading counsel as to a potential appeal to the Supreme Court. This case is not, and has never been, about seeking to avoid or delay the payment of compensation to victims with valid claims. The Diocese has for years been offering support to clerical abuse victims, and the law rightly allows victims to sue for damages on grounds of negligence, or, of course, to seek redress from the actual perpetrators of the abuse. This case is about fundamental legal principles involving the very nature of civil society and religious freedom. It would be disastrous if, in seeking to provide redress for victims of harm, the law put intolerable new pressures on the voluntary sector. This judgment shows further thought and scrutiny are required before clarity in this regard can be established.
Het enige wat zo'n misbruikende kl.....k -net zo min als die kerkelijke hierarchie- niet kon weten is dus slechts de ontwikkelingen van het internet.
Maar daar prijst een beetje RKK (aarts)bisdom (medewerker) zich toch met Benedictus gelukkig om, niewaar? Hoe hadden we anders zo masaal diens opmerkingen over de vullis binnen die Kerk en zijn maatregelen kunnen weten?
Of de uitleg van Bonny over financiele belangen van die liegende en ontkennende kontdraaiende kerkelijke hiërarchie en haar bilmaten in crime en hadden we het nog steeds met emmertjes en pannetjes tegen het lekke dak moeten stellen.
Nu weten we tenminste gewoon dat het (aarts) bisdom en haar medewerksers nog steeds liegt.
Dat schijnt goedkoper te zijn.
Denken ze. En dat is natuurlijk ook zo, over doden. Heel
goedkoop
Het enige wat zo'n misbruikende kl.....k -net zo min als die kerkelijke hierarchie- niet kon weten is dus slechts de ontwikkelingen van het internet.
Maar daar prijst een beetje RKK (aarts)bisdom (medewerker) zich toch met Benedictus gelukkig om, niewaar? Hoe hadden we anders zo masaal diens opmerkingen over de vullis binnen die Kerk en zijn maatregelen kunnen weten?
Of de uitleg van Bonny over financiele belangen van die liegende en ontkennende kontdraaiende kerkelijke hiërarchie en haar bilmaten in crime en hadden we het nog steeds met emmertjes en pannetjes tegen het lekke dak moeten stellen.
Nu weten we tenminste gewoon dat het (aarts) bisdom en haar medewerksers nog steeds liegt.
Dat schijnt goedkoper te zijn.
Denken ze. En dat is natuurlijk ook zo, over doden. Heel
zondag, juli 15, 2012
Albergen: bisschop drinkt petroleum; wir haben es nicht gewusst
Een pastoor die zich voor 1985 schuldig maakte aan seksueel misbruik kon niet weten welke traumatische gevolgen dit had. Dat schrijft het Aartsbisdom Utrecht deze week aan het Meldpunt Seksueel Misbruik.
In een brief van 12 december jl. gaat mr C.A. van Tol, hoofd Bureau Officialaat van het Aartsbisdom, in op een klacht van een man uit het Twentse Albergen. De man werd als misdienaar in de jaren 70 misbruikt door de pastoor.
Volgens het Aartsbisdom werd pas rond 1985 duidelijk wat de gevolgen van seksueel misbruik zijn voor slachtoffers. Daarvoor werd, zo schrijft het Aartsbisdom, in het algemeen geen aandacht besteed aan nazorg.rapport 1985
"Ach Thomas, je gelooft toch niet echt dat er ook maar iemand naar een rechtbank zal stappen?"
"...en ik daag iedereen uit om het begin van het bewijs te leveren.
Voorzitter ik hecht eraan dat we in dit land fatsoenlijk met elkaar omgaan."
bron
maandag, juli 02, 2012
Archbishop Robert Bezak C.SS.R
V IS 02-07-2012 -
Year XXII - Num. 129
zaterdag, april 14, 2012
Hi Mack
In Nederland heten mensen Alie of Ali, 
heet kanker geen K meer, en wordt niemand misbruikt, gesteriliseerd, verkracht of gecastreerd door groene marsmannetjes dieObi1KNowie heten. .
En toen Verwegistan onder het dansen van de Hokey Cokey werd opgeheven verviel het exclusief recht en werden wij allemaal partij bij Internationale Verdragen. Dá's mij altijd geleerd, wen er maar aan dat dat zo blijft ook, Deetman!
Want er zijn zo van die feestjes..... die niet op je klompen aan voelen is een gebrek in je opvoeding.
woensdag, april 04, 2012
Mental Reservation; Ai que lindo rapazinho, ai que lindo rapazinho "Ik lieg alleen wannneer het nodig is" in vertaling van Richard Sipe op Tahir Square
Eu nunca pedi um beijo
Quem me deu foi meu amor!!!
1955: De Bertha's, de Anneke Beekmannen niet teruggave van joodse kinderen, en het Haarlems Huwelijk.
Scoren op de Manga lijst?
dinsdag, januari 24, 2012
PHILADELPHIA (AP) — Prosecutors on Monday accused the Archdiocese of Philadelphia of being an "unindicted co-conspirator" in a clergy sex abuse case and said the Roman Catholic Church fed predators a steady supply of children.
The comments came in a key hearing before the March trial of a high-ranking church official, a priest and a former priest.
Monsignor William Lynn, 61, is charged with conspiring with priests and church officials to keep priests accused of sex abuse in ministry and parishioners in the dark.
Common Pleas District Judge M. Teresa Sarmina must decide how much the jury will hear about the archdiocese's overall handling of sex abuse complaints.
Lynn's lawyer, Thomas Bergstrom, called it "nutty" and "dangerous" for prosecutors to bring in allegations that came before or after Lynn's stint as secretary for clergy. Lynn served in that role from 1992 to 2004, most of it under retired Cardinal Anthony Bevilacqua, who's now 88 and in failing health.
Assistant District Attorney Mark Cipolletti compared the accused priests to live bombs that Lynn left in a room without defusing.
"You're (still) on the hook" if the bomb later explodes, Cipolletti argued.
Lynn's co-defendants are former priest Edward V. Avery, who was defrocked in 2006, and the Rev. James Brennan, who remains a priest but is barred from active ministry. They have denied the charges.
Brennan, 48, is charged with abusing a 14-year-old in the mid-1990s, when he was on leave but still receiving monthly church stipends. Lynn, by then, knew of a series of prior complaints, some from nuns who said Brennan was living in a church residence with young men, one believed to be a former student. The nuns also complained to the archdiocese that he was throwing loud parties, though they didn't want it known they were the source of the complaints.
Lawyer William Brennan, no relation to his client, said the nuns were simply annoyed that Father Brennan was disturbing their peace.
"They're rats and they're wimps," he said of the religious women.
Prosecutors faulted Lynn for not investigating the living arrangements before Brennan had the chance to abuse others.
"If you saw what was in (his personnel) files, it should have raised some bells and whistles," Cipolletti argued.
Bergstrom said the abuse charged in the case occurred later, at Brennan's private residence, during his mid-1990s leave.
"Father Lynn had no control over what Father Brennan did or didn't do," Bergstrom complained.
"It doesn't sound like anybody had any control over anybody," the judge said.
Prosecutors want to tell jurors about dozens of priests accused in a 2005 grand jury report to prove that church officials had a history of ignoring the festering sex abuse problem. No charges were filed against the 63 priests named in that report because of legal time limits. Defense lawyers are trying to limit the testimony to Lynn's oversight of his two co-defendants.
Avery, 69, is charged with raping a 10-year-old altar boy who prosecutors say was passed on to another priest and teacher and raped again. Prosecutors say Avery also sexually assaulted other boys at various parishes, first on overnight trips to the shore or the Poconos, and later, when the trips became a concern to parishioners, in the church sacristy.
"The archdiocese is supplying him with an endless supply of victims," Cipolletti said Monday.
The judge asked if prosecutors consider the archdiocese "an unindicted co-conspirator."
"Certainly," Cipolletti said. "It's not like there aren't other people (in the archdiocese) involved. There absolutely are."
The February 2011 grand jury report blasted Bevilacqua and his successor, Cardinal Justin Rigali, for their handling of priest abuse complaints but said there wasn't enough evidence to charge them with any crimes.
Archdiocese spokeswoman Donna Farrell says the church can't comment on the "co-conspirator" accusation because of a gag order.
Lynn faces up to 28 years in prison if convicted. The archdiocese is paying his legal fees.
It's not immediately clear if Sarmina will rule from the bench on the scope of the evidence. The hearing will stretch into Tuesday.
zaterdag, januari 07, 2012
Ron van der Vring: "Wat ik het meest ga missen is de onderlinge loyaliteit"
bronToen justitie in 2009 het dossier van de politie kreeg bleek de zaak van een van de slachtoffers net een maand verjaard. Het tweede geval was niet te bewijzen. Een woordvoerder van het OM in Utrecht verklaarde vandaag dat Justitie die gang van zaken achteraf betreurt.
HARD INGRIJPEN
Voor aartsbisschop Eijk was het seksueel misbruik echter alsnog reden om hard in te grijpen.
Priester Ron van der V. mag sinds mei 2010 geen mis meer opdragen, geen sacramenten uitdelen en geen pastorale zorg verlenen.
woensdag, januari 04, 2012
Raymond Lahey graphic images
25-6-2008
"The Diocese of Antigonish acknowledges that sexual abuse did occur with certain priests, some of whom have already been criminally convicted and punished for such horrific crimes," said Raymond Lahey, Bishop of Antigonish, in a statement issued June 25.
"We are committed to providing compassion, compensation and counseling to these victims‚ and we hope to structure a service of reconciliation and healing," said Lahey.
August 7, 2009
Good Morning Ladies and Gentlemen. Thank you for your presence here today.
I am Bishop Raymond Lahey of the Diocese of Antigonish.
Before I say anything else here today, as Bishop of Antigonish, I want to formally apologize to every victim and to their families for the sexual abuse that was inflicted upon those who were entitled instead to the trust and protection of priests of the Church.
I want them to know how terribly sorry we are; how wrong this abuse was, and how we are now attempting to right those wrongs. Money can never compensate fully, but we are trying throughout this process to be fair, responsible, respectful, and most of all, compassionate. Above all, we want to do the right thing.
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